# \#brainstorming

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## [Why The World Needs Flashbots (and Crypto): A Researcher's Take](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/why-the-world-needs-flashbots-and-crypto-a-researchers-take/4696)

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**Author:** [@Quintus](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/Quintus)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [February 17, 2025, 11:45pm UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/why-the-world-needs-flashbots-and-crypto-a-researchers-take/4696 "2025-02-17T23:45:31Z")

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Humour me. I recently read Mechanism Design for Large Language Models. This paper from Google Research explains how an LLM-based ad auction could work. In traditional ad auctions, a user goes to a website with available…

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## [An overview of the Flashbots forum](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/an-overview-of-the-flashbots-forum/683)

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**Author:** [@Fred](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/Fred)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [January 10, 2025, 3:36pm UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/an-overview-of-the-flashbots-forum/683 "2025-01-10T15:36:24Z")

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:waving\_hand: This document is intended to give a high level overview of our forum, how it can evolve over time and a couple of proposed changes. The document is divided in 7 parts: Overview Categories and tags Conten…

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## [T/acc 11/12/24: Accelerate Decentralization via Open Source Hardware & Trustless TEEs](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/t-acc-11-12-24-accelerate-decentralization-via-open-source-hardware-trustless-tees/4082)

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**Author:** [@Tina](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/Tina)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 12, 2024, 7:23am UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/t-acc-11-12-24-accelerate-decentralization-via-open-source-hardware-trustless-tees/4082 "2024-11-12T07:23:33Z")

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Time: 15:00-18:30 15:00-16:20 Open Source Hardware - Why, what, how 16:30-16:55 ETH++: A roadmap to (real) decentralization in a world of centralized power (DevCon Mainstage Talk - Phil Daian) 17:00-18:30 Open source h…

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## [UniNight: Programable Privacy to Accelerate Ethereum Decentralization @Bangkok 11.11.2024](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/uninight-programable-privacy-to-accelerate-ethereum-decentralization-bangkok-11-11-2024/4078)

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**Author:** [@Tina](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/Tina)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 11, 2024, 11:30am UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/uninight-programable-privacy-to-accelerate-ethereum-decentralization-bangkok-11-11-2024/4078 "2024-11-11T11:30:17Z")

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The Infinite Garden Stage 18:30-19:00 Our Ethereum Journey with Jinglan Wang, Karl Fleurbach, Ben Jones, Phil Daian and Vitamin, navigated by TINA 19:00-19:15 Live Musical Performance by Georgios K and Ben Jones The Si…

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## [Towards New Cryptographic Solutions to MEV & Blockchain Challenges](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/towards-new-cryptographic-solutions-to-mev-blockchain-challenges/4091)

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**Author:** [@nikki](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/nikki)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 13, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/towards-new-cryptographic-solutions-to-mev-blockchain-challenges/4091 "2024-11-13T18:12:51Z")

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Hello! I wanted to share some thoughts and open a discussion within the community about ideas regarding new frontiers for cryptography towards solutions for MEV-related challenges (as well as blockchain-related ones). A…

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## [TEE.salon @Bangkok 11.10.2024](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/tee-salon-bangkok-11-10-2024/4060)

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**Author:** [@Tina](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/Tina)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [November 10, 2024, 11:31am UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/tee-salon-bangkok-11-10-2024/4060 "2024-11-10T11:31:02Z")

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TEE.salon DevCon Bangkok Edition (11/10/2024) Time: 2024-11-10T08:00:00Z (UTC)→2024-11-10T16:00:00Z (UTC) What to Expect: TEE.salon DevCon Bangkok Edition is the 5th community R&D event since Ethcc '24 to accelerate…

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## [Suave as X](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/suave-as-x/1024)

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**Author:** [@Quintus](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/Quintus)\
**Replies:** 22\
**Last updated:** [October 17, 2024, 6:55am UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/suave-as-x/1024 "2024-10-17T06:55:20Z")

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Half-baked ideas for what could be built on Suave/what Suave role Suave can play

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## [Distributed, persistent storage for suave apps](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/distributed-persistent-storage-for-suave-apps/3673)

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**Author:** [@mateusz](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/mateusz)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [July 26, 2024, 8:48am UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/distributed-persistent-storage-for-suave-apps/3673 "2024-07-26T08:48:25Z")

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What are the currently available solutions for medium-volume distributed & persistent storage? Aim is probably on the order of a gigabyte over the lifetime of an app, so we can’t just put it on chain. Should we just use…

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## [Destructive Hardware Trojan Detection Protocol Brainstorming](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/destructive-hardware-trojan-detection-protocol-brainstorming/3596)

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**Author:** [@Quintus](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/Quintus)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 28, 2024, 1:08am UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/destructive-hardware-trojan-detection-protocol-brainstorming/3596 "2024-06-28T01:08:39Z")

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The following are notes from the Crypto Academic Workshop at Edge City. Problem Description There are several problems that need to be solved to make the TEE trust model palatable for a wide set of Web3 use cases. One o…

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## [Illuminating the blob market](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/illuminating-the-blob-market/3592)

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**Author:** [@shea](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/shea)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 27, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/illuminating-the-blob-market/3592 "2024-06-27T15:58:46Z")

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Context Last week, we saw the blob market enter price discovery mode after a surge of activity on L2s. To meet the demand, rollups posted a lot of blobs, which drove up blob fees and tested the market’s ability clear dem…

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## [Practical POV: Using EIP712 to sign for CCRs](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/practical-pov-using-eip712-to-sign-for-ccrs/3496)

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**Author:** [@brock](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/brock)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [May 31, 2024, 11:55pm UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/practical-pov-using-eip712-to-sign-for-ccrs/3496 "2024-05-31T23:55:47Z")

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@ferranbt just recently posted a PR to suave-geth that replaces the signature scheme used for signing CCRs with an EIP712 signature scheme. This allows us to sign messages from EIP-1193-based wallets (e.g. M\*tamask) with…

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## [Intents and Solvers on Suave](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/intents-and-solvers-on-suave/3409)

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**Author:** [@ch4r10t33r](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/ch4r10t33r)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [May 10, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/intents-and-solvers-on-suave/3409 "2024-05-10T20:58:54Z")

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Hey all, We’ve been experimenting with building an intent-centric Order Flow Auction (OFA) on Suave and have come up with the following structure to define an intent: { "core": { "description": "Essential inf…

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## [Block scoring for mev-boost relays](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/block-scoring-for-mev-boost-relays/202)

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**Author:** [@thegostep](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/thegostep)\
**Replies:** 38\
**Last updated:** [February 22, 2024, 8:49am UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/block-scoring-for-mev-boost-relays/202 "2024-02-22T08:49:11Z")

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We need to come up with a standard way to score the value of a block under the mev-boost architecture. This standard is a dependency for a multitude of components including relay monitoring, validator accounting, builder…

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## [State Lock Auctions: Towards Collaborative Block Building](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/state-lock-auctions-towards-collaborative-block-building/3019)

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**Author:** [@dmarz](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/dmarz)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [February 7, 2024, 7:57am UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/state-lock-auctions-towards-collaborative-block-building/3019 "2024-02-07T07:57:25Z")

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State Lock Auctions: Towards Collaborative Block Building Many thanks to Conor, Quintus, Louis, and Shea for discussions and comments that inspired this post. Cross-posted here State Lock Auctions: Towards Collaborative…

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## [Builderelay](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/builderelay/2688)

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**Author:** [@Quintus](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/Quintus)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [November 24, 2023, 10:55am UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/builderelay/2688 "2023-11-24T10:55:42Z")

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Builderelays: Builder-Relay Vertical Integration tl;dr builder-relay vertical integration is nearer than we think. It’s unclear what to do. While the market incentives for builder-relay integration have been known for a …

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## [The risks of vertical integration in MEV-Boost](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/the-risks-of-vertical-integration-in-mev-boost/235)

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**Author:** [@guayabyte](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/guayabyte)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [November 10, 2023, 2:21am UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/the-risks-of-vertical-integration-in-mev-boost/235 "2023-11-10T02:21:12Z")

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In the implementation of proposer/builder separation (PBS) with MEV-Boost there are still some roles that need to be trusted and there are still some risks of centralization. The risks get riskier when a single organiza…

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## [Finding The Optimum Price Imput for an Abritrage](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/finding-the-optimum-price-imput-for-an-abritrage/2569)

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**Author:** [@kingnassery](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/kingnassery)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [October 29, 2023, 12:39am UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/finding-the-optimum-price-imput-for-an-abritrage/2569 "2023-10-29T00:39:52Z")

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Hello everyone, I hope this message finds you all well. I’m working on an MEV (Miner Extractable Value) arbitrage bot designed for the Arbitrum network in JavaScript. We’re looking for insights and guidance on how to fi…

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## [A Tale of Two PFOF/OFA Models (Order Flow Auctions)](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/a-tale-of-two-pfof-ofa-models-order-flow-auctions/1699)

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**Author:** [@Eru\_Iluvatar](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/Eru_Iluvatar)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 23, 2023, 7:16am UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/a-tale-of-two-pfof-ofa-models-order-flow-auctions/1699 "2023-10-23T07:16:40Z")

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A Tale of Two PFOF Models NB: this is an adaptation of my Latex publication, hopefully no Latex left in here. I am adding the article here so that we can more easily debate it. Abstract: Flow Providers (FP) are now offe…

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## [Should builder block submissions set a different gas limit than what proposer specified?](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/should-builder-block-submissions-set-a-different-gas-limit-than-what-proposer-specified/2414)

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**Author:** [@wasif](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/wasif)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [September 24, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/should-builder-block-submissions-set-a-different-gas-limit-than-what-proposer-specified/2414 "2023-09-24T21:38:41Z")

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Should builder block submissions set a different gas limit than what proposer specified? Context When Flashbots builder builds a block, it adheres strictly to proposer gas limit when setting the header for the built bl…

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## [Questions about builder injustice](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/questions-about-builder-injustice/2263)

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**Author:** [@vita](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/vita)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 25, 2023, 10:15am UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/questions-about-builder-injustice/2263 "2023-08-25T10:15:30Z")

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I would like to hear from searchers related to the following I would like to create a local module that will curb builder fraud and allow searchers to send bundles to multiple builders. If we can create a local module…

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## [Proposal - Block Builder and Relay Identification](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/proposal-block-builder-and-relay-identification/1631)

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**Author:** [@antonydenyer](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/antonydenyer)\
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**Last updated:** [April 17, 2023, 10:12am UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/proposal-block-builder-and-relay-identification/1631 "2023-04-17T10:12:00Z")

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Currently, there is no standard way to identify if a block builder has built a block. To find this information out, you need to use a combination of tactics. You can infer some information from the fee recipient; you can…

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## [Ensuring User Protection and Rollup Revenue with Radius and MEV-Boost](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/ensuring-user-protection-and-rollup-revenue-with-radius-and-mev-boost/1620)

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**Author:** [@Tariz](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/Tariz)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [August 4, 2023, 8:49am UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/ensuring-user-protection-and-rollup-revenue-with-radius-and-mev-boost/1620 "2023-08-04T08:49:22Z")

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By Tariz, Co-Founder & ZK researcher at Radius Abstract The following presents a novel approach to balance the tradeoff between protecting users against harmful MEV (frontrunning, sandwiching) and generating revenue …

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## [Visualization for builders reputation](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/visualization-for-builders-reputation/1905)

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**Author:** [@vita](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/vita)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [July 12, 2023, 3:47am UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/visualization-for-builders-reputation/1905 "2023-07-12T03:47:32Z")

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thanks to Thogard, Dougie DeLuca, Michael, ek, askyv, masato james, jun, yupi for discussion and feedback. Abstracts This article addresses the centralization of block builders, which may reduce the user experience and …

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## [Quantifying Info I: Quantifying The Information Leakage of Computing on Encrypted Transactions](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/quantifying-info-i-quantifying-the-information-leakage-of-computing-on-encrypted-transactions/1752)

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**Author:** [@Quintus](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/Quintus)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [June 27, 2023, 5:05am UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/quantifying-info-i-quantifying-the-information-leakage-of-computing-on-encrypted-transactions/1752 "2023-06-27T05:05:25Z")

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Part 1 The following is an abstraction of a problem. For more context on application, a brief description is attached below. Description The setting An adversary is given a finite set of functions \\mathcal{F} where eve…

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## [\[WIP\] Quantifying Info II: Quantifying The Impact of Economic Impact of Information](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/wip-quantifying-info-ii-quantifying-the-impact-of-economic-impact-of-information/1757)

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**Author:** [@Quintus](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/Quintus)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [May 9, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/wip-quantifying-info-ii-quantifying-the-impact-of-economic-impact-of-information/1757 "2023-05-09T18:42:51Z")

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note: this is still very much a WIP so read if you’re interested but don’t expect well-formed questions In a previous post I outlined a question, trying to understand how much information could be leaked by allowing for…

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## [Intents qualm](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/intents-qualm/1753)

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**Author:** [@eljhfx](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/eljhfx)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [May 20, 2023, 1:56pm UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/intents-qualm/1753 "2023-05-20T13:56:43Z")

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Just some loose thoughts that might open up some interesting discussion since it seems like SUAVE is taking a different perspective: Intents won’t be that useful for MEV searching because if there is value to capture, t…

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## [Towards Trustless Optimistic Relaying](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/towards-trustless-optimistic-relaying/1761)

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**Author:** [@SFYLL](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/SFYLL)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [May 13, 2023, 10:12am UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/towards-trustless-optimistic-relaying/1761 "2023-05-13T10:12:36Z")

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Hey sirs, I think we should get started on the conversation of reducing trust towards relayers. They are low hanging fruits with relatively little overhead that can benefit not only the proposer-builder-relayer trifecta…

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## [How much should we care about regulation?](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/how-much-should-we-care-about-regulation/1558)

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**Author:** [@memester](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/memester)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [April 25, 2023, 2:12pm UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/how-much-should-we-care-about-regulation/1558 "2023-04-25T14:12:59Z")

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I am posting this to gauge whether others have spent any amount of time thinking about how regulations might interact with MEV. Crypto is borderless, it does not exist within imaginary lines drawn on a globe. However, du…

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## [Cross-domain MEV with EigenLayer](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/cross-domain-mev-with-eigenlayer/1428)

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**Author:** [@Walt0x](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/Walt0x)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [March 13, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/cross-domain-mev-with-eigenlayer/1428 "2023-03-13T16:34:42Z")

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Posting some of this here, majority of text is on EigenLayer forum. Thanks to Quintus, Tina, Josh, Calvin and others for insight and/or review. Cross-domain MEV pushes permissionless systems towards centralization, ope…

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## [Measure the transaction latency or waiting time for transactions via private channels](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/measure-the-transaction-latency-or-waiting-time-for-transactions-via-private-channels/1189)

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**Author:** [@zlysunshine2023](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/zlysunshine2023)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [January 31, 2023, 4:02pm UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/measure-the-transaction-latency-or-waiting-time-for-transactions-via-private-channels/1189 "2023-01-31T16:02:58Z")

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Dear All, One question bothers me. The transaction latency or waiting time has been an important factor of consideration for submitting bids for transactions via the public mem-pool: https://ethgasstation.info/. But ho…

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