# Flashwares v: what do MEV apps want from TEEs anyway?

**URL:** https://collective.flashbots.net/t/flashwares-v-what-do-mev-apps-want-from-tees-anyway/3570
**Category:** TEE - Trusted Execution Environment
**Tags:** event, flashwares
**Created:** [June 21, 2024, 12:20pm UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/flashwares-v-what-do-mev-apps-want-from-tees-anyway/3570 "2024-06-21T12:20:09Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
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### Author: ![mateusz](https://collective.flashbots.net/user_avatar/collective.flashbots.net/mateusz/32/336_2.png) [@mateusz](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/mateusz)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 12:20pm UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/flashwares-v-what-do-mev-apps-want-from-tees-anyway/3570/1 "2024-06-21T12:20:09Z")

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![obraz](https://collective.flashbots.net/uploads/default/original/2X/d/da440525d64e6c2845cab32b82edf0c4b017bbb0.jpeg)

As we venture ever so deeper into using TEEs for MEV applications, we come across a multitude of questions.

How should MEV apps running in TEEs communicate with the outside world?  
What good is censorship resistance in the context of MEV and TEEs?  
What should come with a TEE box, and how should MEV apps interact with TEE-specific features?

Join us and our special guest @dmarz in discussion of those and more on 2024-06-25T15:00:00Z→2024-06-25T17:00:00Z.

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Prior (non-required) reading: [RA-TLS](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1801.05863), [cloud attestations](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/tee-engineering-part-1-cloud-attestations-advantages-shortcomings-solutions/3514/3), [Validator in TDX demo](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/t-ee-stack-demo-running-a-validator-in-tdx/3551).

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### Author: ![mateusz](https://collective.flashbots.net/user_avatar/collective.flashbots.net/mateusz/32/336_2.png) [@mateusz](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/mateusz)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2024, 5:04pm UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/flashwares-v-what-do-mev-apps-want-from-tees-anyway/3570/2 "2024-06-25T17:04:46Z")

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Link to excalidraw: [Excalidraw+](https://link.excalidraw.com/l/7Qr2ek3pfMQ/3Rz67R9W58x)

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### Author: ![guayabyte](https://collective.flashbots.net/user_avatar/collective.flashbots.net/guayabyte/32/4_2.png) [@guayabyte](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/guayabyte)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/flashwares-v-what-do-mev-apps-want-from-tees-anyway/3570/3 "2024-06-25T21:42:06Z")

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And here is the recording:

> **[Mateusz Morusiewicz & dmarz: What do MEV apps want from TEEs anyway?](https://www.youtube.com/live/djZf2RIWtes?feature=shared)**
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> Flashwares-session hosted by Mateusz Morusiewicz & dmarz.More information can be found on the forum:https://collective.flashbots.net/t/flashwares-v-what-do-m...

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### Author: ![mateusz](https://collective.flashbots.net/user_avatar/collective.flashbots.net/mateusz/32/336_2.png) [@mateusz](https://collective.flashbots.net/u/mateusz)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://collective.flashbots.net/t/flashwares-v-what-do-mev-apps-want-from-tees-anyway/3570/4 "2024-06-28T15:55:12Z")

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Some hacking around → [GitHub - Ruteri/kutee](https://github.com/Ruteri/kutee)